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标题: 507BJ分手场景(慎入 重点更新在第二页 lovehydeken亲情翻译在第三页)
作者: lurentt& & 时间:
13:29 & & 标题: 507BJ分手场景(慎入 重点更新在第二页 lovehydeken亲情翻译在第三页)
自从看了预告片那个拥抱之后我一直对507有强烈的好奇心，现在我终于自食恶果了，这个剧情介绍太可怕了（如果不小心进来心脏脆弱的亲请别往下看吧 泪）
第二页有BM fight scene 更新 应该是J走了后跟B的第一次见面 我觉得比这幕更痛苦 亲们如果看的话自备手帕
英文不太好的亲们注意了 第三页有lovehydeken不辞劳苦的翻译 实在太感谢了 后面几页可能还会有翻译矫正和讨论 enjoy!!
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I've been fortunate enough to be able to view the 507 break up scene.
Here is a recap, and unfortunately I am unable to post the clip to
Let me just say, Gale and Randy's performances in this scene are Emmy
Scene begins with a close up of the big window in Brian's loft. It is
dark out, probably the early hours of the morning. You can see the
some of the buildings lit in the distance
There is a brief snippit of music. Whether it has lapped over from
the previous scene or not... can't tell, because I have seen on only
this particular segment....not the scene before or the one after.
The music swells a bit then fades. It does not sound like background
music but rather like it was coming from a radio or TV.
It is definitely the last few bars of a John Williams movie theme. At
first I thought it was Star Wars, but in reflecting, I am pretty sure
it is from the main theme of the original Superman movie.
Camera scans past the window and then.....
Close up of Justin lying back in the big white sectional couch. He
has his hands folded on his stomach with a faraway and contemplative
look on his face.
We see his head, shoulders and part of his torso. His head is
resting in the couch pillow and his shoulders and torso are flat in
the couch. He is nervously interlocking and releasing his fingers
Cut to loft door sliding open
Brian enters, looks at Justin and proceeds to the kitchen
Camera shot of Justin. He is lying completely horizontal. Upper body
flat on the cushion of the couch his legs a stretched out and feet on
the coffee table. While his body is perfectly still but he is
fidgeting his still clasped fingers.
Shot back to Brian headed the refrigerator, he glances and smiles
again at Justin
Close up of Justin. Slight flicker of a smile of greeting. He is
starting to crack his knuckles
He looks at Brian and suddenly the shot of Brian goes black and
white. Then he is wearing a tee-shirt instead of the dark silky
button shirt he was wearing at the beginning of the scene. Then he
pulls his tee shirt off and is shirtless with the open water bottle
in his hand . Then he is pouring the water over his head and bare
chest. Close up of Brian's face shaking his head and shaking off the
water. This is actually Justin visualizing that scene from 501 when
Brian brought him to the loft.
Back to color and the present. Brian is dressed as he was at the
beginning of the scene. He finally speaks. He is just opening the
bottle now.
B: The club was packed tonight
J: (slight monotone, as he sits up and stifles a slight yawn): mmmmm.
That's nice. (he stretches his arms in front of him)
B: Line was all the way around the block
J: (sitting up now. Takes a quick breath) Great
B: Hardly any room on the dance floor
J:. Whatever happens, by all means, keep on dancing. (a tinge of
sarcasm? Just a tinge. Mostly there is weariness to his voice)
B: (Looks at him as he fiddles with the cap on the bottle. Slightly
flip tone. Not unkind, though) What about you, dear? How was your
evening? (he gives Justin a little smile. Almost the smile of a
little kid)
J. (stands) Not *nearly* as exciting as yours (again, weary monotone,
until this next part, which is said more evenly and firmly but still
in a quiet tone). I spent it here...alone...thinking. (he approaches
Brian who is standing behind the counter.Flicker of a smile from
Justin) And don't say `always a dangerous sign'.&
Brian runs his index finger and thumb across his pursed lips,
miming: &My lips are sealed.&
Justin leans his back against one of the steel columns. They are
about a foot apart. The tone of the conversation is quiet, straight
forward, but not hostile
J: I made some decisions
B: (unpurses his lips) `bout what
J: My life
J What I want
B: (he approaches J and is right next to him) I thought you had that
all worked out. You're going to live of your conSID-er-able
Hollywood wealth and try your hand at being an artist. (flicker of a
smile. He's trying to make a joke. He knows something is coming)
J: (very serious now and a tad irritated) Why are you making fun of
B: (a bit taken aback) I'M not making fun.
(Justin looks at him with a slight raising of eyebrows. The message
is: &then what DO you mean?&)
B: You're making me f**king nervous as hell (and his nervousness is
evident in his voice and face) (a loud out-take of breath is heard
from Justin) Just tell me what you want, what you decided..and we can
go to bed..and f**k.
J: (slight laugh and smile and shaking of his head). You already know
what I want. I already told you.
B: (His facial expression: `so THIS is what it's all about'. He
starts to turn away. Then he laughs) That's right. A husband (lapses
into Brianesque sarcastic tone) A family. A home (he draws this word
out: Whooome). EV-er-ything that makes life worth living.
J (not loud, but forceful) Would you F**King cut it out? (quietly)
Just *stop* it. (When he says &stop& you can hear what sounds like
him slapping the counter with the palm of his hand)
B is surprised by the strength of Justin's words and tone. He says
J (sighs) And I KNOW you can't give me those things
B: &Not can't. `Can't' denotes that I'm incapable. It's that I won't.
J:I accept that. I suppose that is one of the the reasons I've always
loved you.
Brian (turns away) Oh. The un-tame-able beast.
J: (very reasonably, resolutely and calmly) But to be a couple both
people need to want the same things. Move in the same direction. But
if they can't... or ..won't (a bit of emotion creeps into his voice
for a second ) they really have no other place to go.
B: (Stares at him a minute. Blinks) Probably not.
J: Then why are we still doing this if we know it's never going to
Closeup on Brian. He says nothing for about 5 seconds then for softly
B: Damned if I know
J stares at him for another few seconds then turns and walks out of
the frame. Cut to Brian who takes a drink of water. He watches J as
he walks over toward the bedroom and picks up his leather jacket
which is on the step or riser leading to the bed. He puts it on, then
reaches behind the partition and pulls out his big duffel bag which
is packed and hoists it over his shoulder..Then he picks up his back
back and heads towards the door
Close-up on Brian who now understands Justin is leaving.
Full-length long shot of the two of them standing in the middle of
the room with the door behind them
Justin drops the bags. Brian looks down at them for a few seconds
Justin then reaches up with one hand and places it on B's shoulder
and then puts his hand on Brian's neck and pulls himself toward
Brian, standing on his toes slightly. He then puts his other arm
around Brian and pulls him into a hug.
Brian stands there with both arms awkwardly at his side and then
embraces Justin
They hug tenderly
Individual over-the-shoulder shots of both their faces nuzzling on
each other's necks.
B: Where will you go?
J: I'll think of something
They release each other and J moves to the door
Close up of Brian. He is clenching his jaw. Sadness but also
reflection, contemplation in his eyes. He is thinking, taking it all
He turns toward the door.
B: Let me know.
J is in the door way and he stares at Brian sadly and pulls the door
close-up on Brian. He turns from the door and stares away
作者: minicooper& & 时间:
怎么会这样？？？这不是真的 这不是真的 这不是真的.......祈祷中~~~~
就算这样，j后来也回去了吧？？？要不爆炸那段怎么说？？哎.......................
作者: lqshuixin& & 时间:
LZ你既然这么,好心把507的剧情放进来,为什么不好心到底,顺便翻一下呢,据知这里的英小白不是俺一个.
作者: d10100& & 时间:
分分合合～～爱情在他们之间已经没有疑问了
生活态度的不同，所追求的不同才是他们之间的障碍。
作者: lurentt& & 时间:
下面是引用lqshuixin于 14:05发表的:
LZ你既然这么,好心把507的剧情放进来,为什么不好心到底,顺便翻一下呢,据知这里的英小白不是俺一个.实在抱歉 不是我不愿意 本人的水平真是拖着词霸看完的 要是我翻译会绝对误人子弟的 要是亲你需要大概了解 可以发短消息给我 我是不敢贴在这个高手云集的坛子里的 汗
作者: lurentt& & 时间:
下面是引用minicooper于 13:57发表的:
怎么会这样？？？这不是真的 这不是真的 这不是真的.......祈祷中~~~~
就算这样，j后来也回去了吧？？？要不爆炸那段怎么说？？哎.......................
我还没有看到过508，509的任何介绍 但是好象是爆炸的时候J才回到B身边的
据说他们分了之后在街上偶遇时都各自掩饰内心伤痛，尽量不表露出来
作者: lovehydeken& & 时间:
看了好想哭，這段真是好，讓後來510的那段更有意義了，哈哈哈，Brian這下心痛死了吧，不過這樣看起來，508-509兩集看不到BJ在一起的畫面了
作者: candyperfume& & 时间:
两人拥抱的那一幕在showcase的promo里有，真的是非常sad......
作者: ringdeng& & 时间:
有点老调重弹的感觉，估计编剧是江郎才尽了。
第二季的分手理由跟这个差不多啊......难道三、四两季的剧情都白发展了？？？
作者: sunnycup& & 时间:
我的心碎成一片片了……
作者: 茉谷& & 时间:
不求甚解的大概了解了
哪位好心的精心翻译一下噢？？！
作者: d10100& & 时间:
仔细看了一下，想象一下其中的情景，好伤心啊！！小J还是不能接受他们约定的生活方式。他要的是couple是micheal和BEN那个样子的，不是503或是504他们F**K的那个样子的。好难受好难受啊！！！！虽然知道他们会和好，可还是好难受。现在才觉得整个S5都好灰暗啊，这份心痛直至513都缓解不了～～，看导演把513剪辑成什么样吧，要还是真个调调那就完了～～ [s:203]
作者: lovehydeken& & 时间:
下面是引用ringdeng于 14:55发表的:
有点老调重弹的感觉，估计编剧是江郎才尽了。
第二季的分手理由跟这个差不多啊......难道三、四两季的剧情都白发展了？？？
沒有白發展啦，第二季分手時，Justin沒有想清楚，他覺得Brian不愛他，但ethan愛他，所以跑到ethan那邊。
但復合後Justin已經確定知道Brian愛他，問題在於Brian的行為模式，以及BJ的相處模式不是Justin要的
Justin在507之前就把他要的說的很清楚
J:You already know what I want. I already told you.
他要的是一種life，更切近於family的生活
B: That's right. A husband&&A family. A home . EV-er-ything that makes life worth living.
Brian明白但不願給，不是給不起，而是「不願給」
B: &Not can't. `Can't' denotes that I'm incapable. It's that I won't.
Justin回說
J:I accept that. I suppose that is one of the the reasons I've always
loved you.
他接受Brian這種「can't和won't」的繆論，只有一個原因，因為他愛Brian。
但Justin所期待得到的life
如果Brian給的起卻不願給，Justin沒辦法留下來，507裡Justin就是想通了這點，所以才要離開。
這和第二季分手不一樣，第二季Justin是以為Brian不愛他
但第五季的分手是Justin在明白Brian能愛他卻不願愛他的情況下提出的
我覺得Justin很痛苦
明知道Brian可以愛他但又眼睜睜看著Brian不願愛他
真的很痛苦
Brian能愛卻不願愛
「can't和won't」的繆論
逼的Justin離開
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作者: 贵之水& & 时间:
小J那么爱他，一定是想给Brian一点点思考的时间拉。表自己吓唬自己，他一定会回去Brian身边！！
作者: d10100& & 时间:
b爱小J，但不愿过那种生活。他不愿给小J的不是爱，所有的爱他已经给了，他WON'T的是一夫一妻制的生活。
作者: shelly116& & 时间:
作者: wsmdm& & 时间:
对于爱，高傲而脆弱的B，可能也是有心无力了吧
他不是不爱J，而是害怕自己的给予最终会带给彼此另一种伤害。
他在乎自己和J的类同，（J简直在一方面是自己的翻版）
也害怕自己和J的不同（J的执著于爱的结果），那却是B所害怕的
在自己心爱的面前变老，变得不在强势，那是他所不愿意的
剧本在一再的表现这个，你们没有看见吗？
他认为，放J走才是给他自己最好的交代，是他爱的方式，所以
他又一次放手！只是，这种放手现在是J自己提了出来
一点也没有在意我们的感觉！哎…………继续看下去吧，虽然
心里总是有点不是滋味……
作者: air& & 时间:
我的英文很烂，可还是看得好心痛
相爱的人偏偏要分手，分手偏偏要以一个拥抱开始，这一对还真是。。。
作者: dranhxm& & 时间:
还没看 不过已经
作者: xunmin& & 时间:
怎么又分了~~~~~~这两人还真有心情闹~~~~~~这集剧本是谁写的，叫本拉登去炸了他！！！！！！
作者: 夜语& & 时间:
还好小夜没看到507呢，要不会伤心死的~
作者: 卡兰卡兰& & 时间:
偶爱虐心～～虐我吧～～（BT女人出水啦～～）
作者: lee81311& & 时间:
看得一知半解的，只知道这两个又要分开了，真是心痛至极，CL这两个老怪物还真是会折腾人啊！！！
作者: max& & 时间:
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作者: bettyy& & 时间:
下面是引用lovehydeken于 17:10发表的:
沒有白發展啦，第二季分手時，Justin沒有想清楚，他覺得Brian不愛他，但ethan愛他，所以跑到ethan那邊。
但復合後Justin已經確定知道Brian愛他，問題在於Brian的行為模式，以及BJ的相處模式不是Justin要的
第五季的小J真的是成熟了
对自己想要的生活非常清楚，敢于选择自己的道路
不再追逐在B的身后了
这点是唯一值得安慰的
始终认为他们之间的问题
关键在于B，
我觉得B说他不愿改变“i won't&，其实是他不敢尝试改变
他怕他始终没有办法做到family man
他怕他开始依赖family life而收到伤害
他不愿改变现有的生活方式，那种他已经习惯了的”安全“的生活方式
在这点上，不得不说B是个自私的情人
他爱他自己始终超过小J
尽管不愿承认，
但一路看到现在，我真的有这种感受
现在的BJ，或许还真的不适合长相厮守
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作者: lurentt& & 时间:
我打了几大段全没了 我真想自杀了事 楼上的亲，看了你最后的一句话我心绞痛又犯了
作者: happysusan& & 时间:
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作者: qincang& & 时间:
这段剧情写的很有感觉，谢谢楼主
看了真是万般滋味在心头。。
justin的无奈与痛苦，最终选择的离去，
brian的骄傲，无措，最终只能眼睁睁的看着justin离去
看了真是很难过。两个相爱的人，两个知道彼此相爱的人，却要分开，
太痛苦了。。。
作者: tiantian& & 时间:
第五季的小J真的是成熟了对自己想要的生活非常清楚，敢于选择自己的道路不再追逐在B的身后了这点是唯一值得安慰的 始终认为他们之间的问题关键在于B，我觉得B说他不愿改变“i won't&，其实是他不敢尝试改变他怕他始终没有办法做到family man 他怕他开始依赖family life而收到伤害他不愿改变现有的生活方式，那种他已经习惯了的”安全“的生活方式 在这点上，不得不说B是个自私的情人他爱他自己始终超过小J 尽管不愿承认，但一路看到现在，我真的有这种感受现在的BJ，或许还真的不适合长相厮守
Brian不是一个自私的人,这是地球人都知道的啊~~ 他爱Justin,一切都给了不是吗? 爱,关心,温柔,
霸道,甚至把最真实的自己都让Justin拥有了,唯一没有给的就是拉着Justin走进教堂,在神父和朋友面前
亲吻Justin,大声地对他说I do!
其实,Brian两次放手,已经恰恰说明了,他爱Justin胜过爱自己,因为,他的痛苦是那么的明显......
He says &I won't& 可能 跟他所看到的婚姻范例有很大的关系.......
婚姻是什么呢??身心都要对自己的伴侣忠诚吧......
这两只在身体的本能需求方面都是无法做到婚姻中的那种唯一吧......所以可能不愿让彼此都被束缚住呢!
但但但是偶还是天天盼望他们能marriage,只看到小Brian和小Justin亲亲,摸摸,抱抱和...嘿嘿...做他们爱做的事...呵呵...呼呼...yes!
together&&forever&&from now on 吧~~
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作者: sowhat2005& & 时间:
很能体会j的心情，一点都不同情brian，不过仍然很期待510，也打算只看这集了
作者: jojojo& & 时间:
早就對CL不抱希望了
現在最愛的是BJ future fic
一定要找到一個最佳版本~
作者: joanna0924& & 时间:
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作者: minicooper& & 时间:
这段的出现是不是源于B要和那个自由大道新的野兽较量阿，然后小J不能接受b重新f**k around的生活，所以选择离开.......是这样的么
作者: polestar& & 时间:
下面是引用minicooper于 06:19发表的:
这段的出现是不是源于B要和那个自由大道新的野兽较量阿，然后小J不能接受b重新f**k around的生活，所以选择离开.......是这样的么
最主要應該是Brian在一次bj中得到梅毒
這才讓小J驚覺，B大是不會停止去f＊＊k會動的東西
再加上那個令人惡寒的比賽............
507雖然看的令人痛苦
但是也唯有如此，才能讓B大的愛情智商迅速成長
也才會在510時說出那三個字
所以是非常關鍵的一集
作者: bing& & 时间:
不注过程，只重结果，小J还是会回来的，他们还是会在一起的，OK
作者: iss37& & 时间:
心情比较平静~~~
作者: lurentt& & 时间:
10:29 & & 标题: Re:507BJ分手场景（重点更新在第二页 悲痛慎入）(from yahoo group)
这里是BM fight scene in 507,来源相同。让我震惊的BM分开很大程度上竟然是因为BJ的问题，所以这段虽说是BM说话，却是BJ问题，关注的亲看下去，但是事先说明 B的痛苦超过了我的想象 我觉得这段比直接分手那段更刺伤我的心，请自备手帕
Brian and Michael fight scene 507
This one is amazing scene folks. I have to tell you, Gale is
magnificent in portraying Brian's anger, but Hal does a good job too.
I'm sure there will be some !@#$ Novotny rants from some quarters
after you read this, but I'm telling you, Mikey was not off-base here.
It occurs in the same ep. as the B/J breakup...sometime afterwards,
but I do not know how close afterwards.
The scene:
The Bruckner-Novotny's.
A shot of the dark living room, seen from the side of the staircase
There is a loud insistant banging at the front door.
Lights come on and we hear Ben's voice
Ben: &Alright! I'm co-oming!匫kay. O-Okay&
Ben comes down the stairs and heads to the front door
Ben: (almost to himself as he reached the entryway)&Stop already?&
He pulls the door open revealing an agitated and apparently drunk
Brian, one arm is folded across his chest, his other is bent with his
elbow resting on the other arm. A cigarette in his hand, held near
Ben: Brian?
Brian: (slightly slurring his words, weaving a bit) EX-ce-lent ,
perfessor. You have recognized the subject and iDIN -tified him. (a
little Georgia accent creeping in?)
Ben: We've gone to bed.
Brian: Right, I forgot The STEPFORD husbands (yells this in the
direction of the general neighborhood) TURN IN EARLY!
Ben: (grabs for Brian's arm to pull him inside): Get in here, you'll
wake the whole neighborhood
Brian gives him a &that's the whole idea& look. Puffs on the
cigarette, then throws it down on the porch and stomps it with his
foot, then walks past Ben into the house. Ben looks down a sec,
probably at the mashed cigarette on his nice clean porch.
Brian has stormed, or rather lurched into the middle of the living
room. Fire in his eyes and an evil Brianesque grin on his face
Brian: I want to see your wife. Where IS the little woman? Or little
Ben: You mean Michael?
Brian: (puts his hands up in front of his face and clenches his
fingers in a claw-like manner) Who the F**K else would I be referring
Ben: He's aSLEEP!
Brian: (VERY serious now and in Ben's face. Combination shout and
growl) ROUSE HIM! Wake Him Up!! (looks toward the stairs) MICHAEL!
Get your ass down?br&
Ben tries to body block Brian, who moves around him
Ben: I think you better go, you better go
(he moves in front of Brian again)
Brian: (in an almost a kid-like neener-neener tone, accompanied by a
slight wagging of his head) I'm not going ANYwhere
Ben: Come on get out. I said get your ass out of my house. (Ben
shoves against Brian again and they back off and look as if they are
about to come to blows)
Michael's voice: It's OK Ben.
Michael comes down the stairs and walks around behind Ben to stand
looking up at Brian
Michael: (to Ben) I'll handle this. Go to bed
B Ya sure?
Michael looks at him and nods. Ben goes up the stairs as Brian
smiles/leers at him. Michael turns to look at Brian with an &Explain
yourself!& expression
Brian sways back, smiles drunkenly and says
Brian: Well, Mikey. ConGRATulations.
Michael: For WHAT?
Brian: You WON!
Michael passes in front of him and goes into the dining room.
Brian: (following with the same drunken smile on his face) To the
spoiler... goes the victory.
Michael: I DON'T know what you're talking about.
Brian: Of COURSE you don't. No one plays dewy-eyed innocent like
you. (leaning into Michael's face and forming a sneer with each word)
Although at 35 you're getting a bit long in the tooth for short pants.
Michael: (sneering back) Speaking about outgrowing your act, nothing
is more pathetic, to use one of your favorite words, than an over-the-
hill club boy (turns and walks away)
Brian follows him chuckling in mocking tone. They walk into the
kitchen and Michael grabs the glass carafe from the coffee machine
and heads toward the sink. Brian leans into him again.
Brian: YOU infected him.
Michael stops and turns to look at Brian. Confused.
Brian: (furious) You and your petty bourgeois, mediocre, conformist,
assimilationist, life! (pause. They look at each other) Thanks to you
he has visions (sneeringly, mocking) Babies! Weddings! White picket
fences dancing (he points his forefinger to the side of his head) in
his blond little head.
Michael: and you think *I* put them there.
Brian: (waving his left hand in the air) Before you and your husband
tied the noose around your neck, he was (raging now) PERFECTLY HAPPY!
And now...he's a defector...just like the rest of y..
Michael (his turn to get into Brian's face and shout) He was NEVER
perfectly happy!
Brian stares a minute then walks around Michael and into the foyer.
Michael follows him, talking
Michael: Waiting for years for you to say, `I love you. You're the
only one one I want'.
Brian stops throws his hands up toward his face.. Then stops and
gestures with both hands to Michael.
Brian: That's... NOT...who... I am
Michael: (loudly, gesturing back at Brian with both hands) Don't we
Brian: (turns away. Line delivered in a slight sing-song manner) and
now...he's HERE..in YOUR... house.
Michael: (follows) It's not a house, it's a home
Brian (angry again. Turns to confront him) It's a FARCE. (practically
screams) It's a FREAK SHOW!
They are back where they started now with the side of the staircase
behind Michael.
Michael: (looking up at Brian defiantly) Call it what you want. I
really don't care. But he didn't leave because I inFECTed him.
(Michael is shown in close-up over Brian's right shoulder) He left
because of YOU.
Cut to Brian's face. He is silent, but he has a slight mocking smile
forming on his face.
Cut back to Michael
Michael: Who WOULDN'T?
Cut back to Brian. Silent. Not smiling anymore. In fact he is
stunned. He just stares. His mouth is slightly open and he remains
silent. Is he shocked by what Michael said it or that is it MICHAEL
who said it?
Close up of Michael's face
Close up of Brian's face
They stare at each other
Brian turns and walks away
Brian walks toward the camera which is shooting up from floor level .
Michael is by the stairs in the background. Brian walks directly into
the camera and out of the frame leaving Michael standing in the
background
Quick cut to the top of the stairs. Standing at the railing is a
sober-faced, sad Justin. He stands there for a couple beats , turns
and walks out of the frame
我没有想到B会把他的这一面给J看到。。。。。。。。我没什么别的想法，就是觉得 J怎么能忍住不追出去的，要是我肯定受不了了&&[s:203]&&[s:203]
作者: shelly116& & 时间:
10:45 & & 标题: Re:507BJ分手场景(from yahoo group)
天啊~大人你就是想让我再伤心一次...
唉~突然喜欢上M了~
想想他也不容易,喜欢某人十年都没有结果,好不容易以为某人能够为人改变,能够爱别人时却又遭受了沉重的打击.
我觉得他也不完全是为了小J而生气,更多的是为了自己.
为了自己十年无奈的等待.
某人啊...你还不觉悟吗?(B的饭追杀中...)
PS:and now...he's HERE..in YOUR... house.
大叔怎么知道小J在M家呢??
不明白~~ [s:202]
作者: mangie& & 时间:
[s:203]&&[s:203]&&[s:203]
真正的放声大哭中....
我越来越受不了J了...我知道我不能在这里骂他,不过我真的已经压抑了很久了....
我只是想B幸福,仅仅这样而已..打爆CL..
就像某人说过的,BJ就是&相爱的刺猬&,只能远远地看着彼此,在一起注定要伤害到对方.
都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,都是CL的错,
作者: qafjustin& & 时间:
谁给我翻译啊，我的天啊，一段一段的英语……
作者: darwingill& & 时间:
13:04 & & 标题: Re:Re:507BJ分手场景(from yahoo group)
下面是引用shelly116于 10:45发表的Re:507BJ分手场景(from yahoo group):
天啊~大人你就是想让我再伤心一次...
唉~突然喜欢上M了~
想想他也不容易,喜欢某人十年都没有结果,好不容易以为某人能够为人改变,能够爱别人时却又遭受了沉重的打击.
我觉得他也不完全是为了小J而生气,更多的是为了自己.
i agree with u!!!!
作者: minicooper& & 时间:
brian居然喝醉了。。。小J看到他为了他那么痛苦居然不追出去。。。。。
还有天理么！！！
作者: mangie& & 时间:
没有!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
作者: springer& & 时间:
哦，這一段兒brian和mike的，倒是比和justin那一段更能説明問題。
bj有时太短兵相接了，他们自己心裏明白，但給观众的語言性臺詞欠缺，留白太多。
導致你可以這樣理解，也可以那樣理解，
但和m的台詞，要更直接，更切中要害。
值得一看。。 [s:183]&&[s:183]&&[s:183]
作者: 路德维希& & 时间:
终于就着词霸看完了。。 [s:188]
互相折磨得两人。你们不痛我们都心痛了。。 [s:203]&&[s:203]
作者: cookiesumin& & 时间:
志不同道不合，不相为谋。J分了就不会拖泥带水，干嘛要追，又不是琼瑶小说。他在308说他知道B能给他什么所以回到B身边(B也说了他能给只是不想给)，507J说既然他的愿望遥不可及，两人又何必继续耗下去，清清楚楚，干脆利落。B也没有错，That's who he is, judge yourself.CL更没错，他们又没拿着刀逼我们看，错的是观众，接受不了不看不就没事了。什么天不天理，现实就是残酷的，说US版不够真实，给点真实又哭天喊地，CL真是吃力不讨好呀。
作者: d10100& & 时间:
Brian: Of COURSE you don't. No one plays dewy-eyed innocent like
you. (leaning into Michael's face and forming a sneer with each word)
Although at 35 you're getting a bit long in the tooth for short pants.
Michael: (sneering back) Speaking about outgrowing your act, nothing
is more pathetic, to use one of your favorite words, than an over-the-
hill club boy (turns and walks away)
这两句什么意思？？？？？？
晕啊！！后面的BM的对话都是在说什么啊~~我怎么看的云里雾里的！！
作者: leslielala& & 时间:
天啊，我喜欢这一幕。
作者: lurentt& & 时间:
下面是引用cookiesumin于 19:18发表的:
志不同道不合，不相为谋。J分了就不会拖泥带水，干嘛要追，又不是琼瑶小说。他在308说他知道B能给他什么所以回到B身边(B也说了他能给只是不想给)，507J说既然他的愿望遥不可及，两人又何必继续耗下去，清清楚楚，干脆利落。B也没有错，That's who he is, judge yourself.CL更没错，他们又没拿着刀逼我们看，错的是观众，接受不了不看不就没事了。什么天不天理，现实就是残酷的，说US版不够真实，给点真实又哭天喊地，CL真是吃力不讨好呀。首先欢迎大人光临鄙贴
大人的话我看到倒数第二句都在脸红接受中。有些道理明白不一定做的到，每个人看电视剧关注的东西不一样 获得的感情也不一样 事到如今 我已经不可能客观 公平 冷静的看待BJ之间的感情发展 看到他们分开我的心会很痛 所以忍不住发泄了一下。但是我又可以理解BJ的想法 所以很多时候只能怪到编剧头上了 我承认自己忽略了看贴人的心情 丧失了对CL的理解和尊重 我马上就把自己误导性的话语删掉 抱歉造成大家的不快。
其次我想说US版真不真实我是不知道 毕竟我身边没有可以参照的例子 但是 如果说这幕就是所谓的真实 恕我不能认同 这里我不是指J没有追出去或是怎的（我只是想他怎么可以忍心看B那样离开 不是说他真会追出去）而是说CL处心积虑的给5季增加BJ情感卖点的方法：首先是M建立新家对J造成的影响 生活观念的分歧导致矛盾不可调和化 然后一个梅毒变成导火索 他们分开了 。看到这里我尚且能够理解。我所不能理解的是如果CL传达给我们的是BJ追求生活的不一样 那这个裂痕显然不是一场爆炸后的一次真情表白能解决的问题。我不相信B在三集的时间里能颠覆掉他30几年建立的人生观和价值取向，那这样的复合有什么样的意义。我不是觉得B不会为了J而改变 而是觉得如今BJ的感情发展即使看到他们复合都有点胆战心惊。难道是CL也无法解决这样的问题 所以把J拍到纽约去了？我觉得他们分明有为了拉拢女性观众而故意折腾这两个的嫌疑。
作者: leslielala& & 时间:
楼上的我理解你，但是，戏剧的本质就是冲突，如果没有矛盾剧情也发展不下去，不管怎样我就喜欢看BJ情海翻波。
作者: lovehydeken& & 时间:
我翻了一下，可能不是翻的很好，大家看看吧
前面一大段是描述Brian跑到Michael和Ben的新家拼命敲門，當時已經很晚了，
Ben開門發現是喝醉酒大鬧的Brian，怕他吵醒鄰居，把他扶進門來。進門後Brian
吵著要見Michael。
Brian:我要見你老婆，那個可愛的小女人在哪還是要說那個可愛的小老公(又在諷刺了)
: Ben: You mean Michael?
&&Ben:你是說Michael
: Brian: (puts his hands up in front of his face and clenches his
: fingers in a claw-like manner) Who the F**K else would I be referring
&&Brian:他媽的除了他還會是誰
: Ben: He's aSLEEP!
&&Ben:他已經在睡了
: Brian: (VERY serious now and in Ben's face. Combination shout and
: growl) ROUSE HIM! Wake Him Up!! (looks toward the stairs) MICHAEL!
: Get your ass down?br&
&&Brian:把他給我叫醒，Michael你給我滾下來。
註解：Brian難過的神智不清了，不過原諒他啦，Justin的決定放手讓他瘋狂，
&&&& 而且看情形，他知道Justin在Michael家。
Ben試圖叫Brian離開，但Brian仍然大鬧不肯離開，Michael走下樓梯，跟Ben說沒關係
&&他可以處理的。然後Michael看著Brian，一副你給我好好解釋這個情況的表情。
: Brian: Well, Mikey. ConGRATulations.
&&Brian:哼，Mikey，真是恭喜你了
: Michael: For WHAT?
&&Michael:恭喜什麼
: Brian: You WON!
&&Brian:你贏了
: Brian: (following with the same drunken smile on his face) To the
: spoiler... goes the victory.
&&Brian:你的破壞終於成功了、勝利了
: Michael: I DON'T know what you're talking about.
&&Michael:我不知道你在說些什麼
: Brian: Of COURSE you don't. No one plays dewy-eyed innocent like
: you. (leaning into Michael's face and forming a sneer with each word)
: Although at 35 you're getting a bit long in the tooth for short pants.
&&Brian:你當然不知道，沒有人比得上你的純潔無辜，即便35歲了仍然穿著白內褲
&&(後面不知有沒有翻對，不過Brian失去理智到口不擇言了)
: Michael: (sneering back) Speaking about outgrowing your act, nothing
: is more pathetic, to use one of your favorite words, than an over-the-
: hill club boy (turns and walks away)
&&Michael:比起你那老是長不大的行為，沒什麼比這更可悲了，你就繼續諷刺吧，
&&你這個過了三十歲的俱樂部男孩
&&(Michael講的還真是貼切啊)
: Brian: YOU infected him.
&&Brian:你影響了他(這句話證明了Brian已經瘋掉了，他太難過了)
: Michael stops and turns to look at Brian. Confused.
&&Michael停下了腳步，疑惑的看著Brian
: Brian: (furious) You and your petty bourgeois, mediocre, conformist,
: assimilationist, life! (pause. They look at each other) Thanks to you
: he has visions (sneeringly, mocking) Babies! Weddings! White picket
: fences dancing (he points his forefinger to the side of his head) in
: his blond little head.
&&Brian:就是你和你那二流的、平庸的、守舊的的生活，真是感謝你啊，
&&&&& &現在他那小小的金髮腦袋裡憧憬著小孩、婚禮、白色圍籬。
: Michael: and you think *I* put them there.
&&Michael:所以你認為是「我」把這些塞進他腦袋
: Brian: (waving his left hand in the air) Before you and your husband
: tied the noose around your neck, he was (raging now) PERFECTLY HAPPY!
: And now...he's a defector...just like the rest of y..
&&Brian:在你和你老公在脖子上綁上束縛之前，他曾經是那麼快樂，
&&&&& &但現在因為你的影響，這一切都.....
&&&&& &(ps.再一次的覺得Brian難過到瘋了)
: Michael (his turn to get into Brian's face and shout) He was NEVER
: perfectly happy!
&&Michael:(轉向Brian並大吼)他從來沒有快樂過
: Brian stares a minute then walks around Michael and into the foyer.
: Michael follows him, talking
&&Brian僵住了一下，走過Michael身旁進入門廳，Michael跟過去並說
: Michael: Waiting for years for you to say, `I love you. You're the
: only one one I want'.
&&Michael:他等了這麼多年就是希望你說，我愛你，你是我唯一想要的
: Brian: That's... NOT...who... I am
&&Brian:那...那...不會是我...那不是我....
: Michael: (loudly, gesturing back at Brian with both hands) Don't we
: ALL know!
&&Michael:(大聲且用兩隻手抓住Brian)我們都知道，沒有人不知道
: Brian: (turns away. Line delivered in a slight sing-song manner) and
: now...he's HERE..in YOUR... house.
&&Brian:而現在..他..他在這裡...在你的房子裡
&&&&&&(ps.天啊 Justin在這裡啊 他全都聽到了啊 我要瘋了瘋了)
: Michael: (follows) It's not a house, it's a home
&&Michael:這不僅只是個房子，這是個家
: Brian (angry again. Turns to confront him) It's a FARCE. (practically
: screams) It's a FREAK SHOW!
&&Brian:(再次被激怒)這是個鬧劇，這一切都是場鬧劇
: Michael: (looking up at Brian defiantly) Call it what you want. I
: really don't care. But he didn't leave because I inFECTed him.
: (Michael is shown in close-up over Brian's right shoulder) He left
: because of YOU.
&&Michael:隨便你怎麼說，我不在乎，但是他離開不是因為我影響他，
&&&&&&&&&他會離開全是因為你
&&&&&&&&&(ps.鼓掌鼓掌，Michael說的完全正確，Brian你這沒骨氣的男人啊)
: Cut to Brian's face. He is silent, but he has a slight mocking smile
: forming on his face.
: Cut back to Michael
&&鏡頭切到Brian的臉，他安靜下來，但臉上仍帶著偽裝的微笑，鏡頭切回Michael
: Michael: Who WOULDN'T?
&&Michael:有誰不是?
&&&&&&&&&(p.s 這句話意思很深，其他Michael也是因為Brian而離開，
&&&&&&&&&&&&& Brian同時失去兩個最愛的人，在這一刻)
: Cut back to Brian. Silent. Not smiling anymore. In fact he is
: stunned. He just stares. His mouth is slightly open and he remains
: silent. Is he shocked by what Michael said it or that is it MICHAEL
: who said it?
鏡頭切到Brian，一陣安靜，他不再微笑，他整個人愣住，一動也不動，
他的嘴角輕微張開，但仍是一片安靜，似乎是被Michael話中的意思震住
Close up of Michael's face
: Close up of Brian's face
: They stare at each other
: Brian turns and walks away
鏡頭切到Michael又切到Brian，他們凝視彼此，然後Brian轉身離開
: Brian walks toward the camera which is shooting up from floor level .
: Michael is by the stairs in the background. Brian walks directly into
: the camera and out of the frame leaving Michael standing in the
: background
: Quick cut to the top of the stairs. Standing at the railing is a
: sober-faced, sad Justin. He stands there for a couple beats , turns
: and walks out of the frame
Michael走上樓，突然鏡頭很快的切到樓梯盡頭扶手處一張平靜的臉，
Justin站在那，看起來是那麼的傷悲，那麼的筋疲力盡、那樣的沮喪。
接著轉身走出鏡頭外。
作者: lovehydeken& & 时间:
再補一段我翻的507 BJ分手那段的翻譯，翻的普通，大家多包涵
謝謝其他朋友的幫忙，我把cookiesumin指正的部分，和lurentt增加的部分一起加入我這段
沒有特別用顏色標出是為了大家閱讀方便，希望兩位不要介意
: J: I made some decisions
&&J:我做了一個決定
: B: (unpurses his lips) `bout what
&&B:什麼決定
: J: My life
&&J:我的人生
: J: What I want
&&J: 我要的是什麼
: B: (he approaches J and is right next to him) I thought you had that
: all worked out. You're going to live of your conSID-er-able
: Hollywood wealth and try your hand at being an artist. (flicker of a
: smile. He's trying to make a joke. He knows something is coming)
&&B:(靠向J並站在J旁邊)我以為你已經得到所有你想要的了，豐富的好萊塢經驗，
&&&而且往成為藝術家前進(Brian微笑著，他試圖使氣氛輕鬆，因為他察覺到了一些
&&&奇怪的感覺)
: J: (very serious now and a tad irritated) Why are you making fun of
&&J:(很認真且有點惱怒)為什麼你總是不能正經一點
: B: (a bit taken aback) I'M not making fun.
&&B: 我沒有
: (Justin looks at him with a slight raising of eyebrows. The message
: is: &then what DO you mean?&)
&&(Justin輕輕皺起眉頭，似乎在問Brian，那你是什麼意思)
: B: You're making me f**king nervous as hell (and his nervousness is
: evident in his voice and face) (a loud out-take of breath is heard
: from Justin) Just tell me what you want, what you decided..and we can
: go to bed..and f**k.
&&B:該死的你讓我緊張起來，你只要告訴我你要什麼，你又決定了什麼，
&&&然後我們就該上床然後f**k
& (這時Brian的聲音和表情明顯的緊張與焦躁起來，Justin嘆了一大口氣)
: J: (slight laugh and smile and shaking of his head). You already know
: what I want. I already told you.
&&J:(輕聲的笑出來且帶點笑的搖了搖頭)
&&&你早就知道我要的是什麼，我早就告訴過你
: B: (His facial expression: `so THIS is what it's all about'. He
: starts to turn away. Then he laughs) That's right. A husband (lapses
: into Brianesque sarcastic tone) A family. A home (he draws this word
: out: Whooome). EV-er-ything that makes life worth living.
&&B:(Brian的臉上顯示出：又是為了「這個」，然後轉身並笑出來)
是，我知道，你要一個老公、一個家庭、一個家(Brian把尾音拉長，有諷刺的感覺)
&&&好像有了這些人生才值得
: J (not loud, but forceful) Would you F**King cut it out? (quietly)
: Just *stop* it. (When he says &stop& you can hear what sounds like
: him slapping the counter with the palm of his hand)
&&J:(不大聲但很有力道的說)該死的你可以不要再提這些繆論了，停止這些
&&&(一邊說一邊把手重重的往旁揮)
: B is surprised by the strength of Justin's words and tone. He says
: nothing.
&&Brian對Justin說話的語調和字眼感到訝異，他沒再說什麼。
: J (sighs) And I KNOW you can't give me those things
&&J:(嘆了口氣)我知道你不能給我這些
: B: &Not can't. `Can't' denotes that I'm incapable. It's that I won't.
&&B:不是「不能」，「不能」是指我給不起，我是不願給
: J:I accept that. I suppose that is one of the the reasons I've always
: loved you.
&&J:我同意，而我想這就是我一直愛你的原因之一。
: Brian (turns away) Oh. The un-tame-able beast.
&&原文註解：Brian轉身離開，唉，這個不被馴服的野獸
: J: (very reasonably, resolutely and calmly) But to be a couple both
: people need to want the same things. Move in the same direction. But
: if they can't... or ..won't (a bit of emotion creeps into his voice
: for a second ) they really have no other place to go.
&&J:(平靜又堅決的說)要成為伴侶，兩個人追求的必須是同樣的東西，
&&&往同樣的方向前進，但如果他們不能...或是...不願(說到這時，Justin眼底
&&&有著一絲情緒)，那他們將沒有地方可以前進，可以容身。
: B: (Stares at him a minute. Blinks) Probably not.
&&B:(盯著Justin一會，眨了眨眼)也許吧，也許真是如此
: J: Then why are we still doing this if we know it's never going to
&&J:那為什麼我們還在這裡，如果我們永遠都達不到我所說的，何必繼續作繭自縛呢？
: Closeup on Brian. He says nothing for about 5 seconds then for softly
: B: Damned if I know
&&B:(鏡頭貼近Brian，他停了五秒什麼也沒說，然後輕聲的說)該死的我怎麼會知道
: J stares at him for another few seconds then turns and walks out of
: the frame. Cut to Brian who takes a drink of water. He watches J as
: he walks over toward the bedroom and picks up his leather jacket
: which is on the step or riser leading to the bed. He puts it on, then
: reaches behind the partition and pulls out his big duffel bag which
: is packed and hoists it over his shoulder..Then he picks up his back
: back and heads towards the door
&&總之這段就是Justin開始收行李
&&Close-up on Brian who now understands Justin is leaving.
&&Brian了解到Justin打算要離開了(天啊天啊 你就這樣讓他走 沒骨氣的男人&_&)
: Full-length long shot of the two of them standing in the middle of
: the room with the door behind them
: Justin drops the bags. Brian looks down at them for a few seconds
: Justin then reaches up with one hand and places it on B's shoulder
: and then puts his hand on Brian's neck and pulls himself toward
: Brian, standing on his toes slightly. He then puts his other arm
: around Brian and pulls him into a hug.
: Brian stands there with both arms awkwardly at his side and then
: embraces Justin
: They hug tenderly
: Individual over-the-shoulder shots of both their faces nuzzling on
: each other's necks.
J放下包，有几秒钟B就这样看着那包。然后J伸出一只手放在B的肩膀上，把手放在B的脖子上将他拉近自己，J稍微的掂起脚尖站着。随后他伸出另一只胳膊绕向B给了他一个拥抱。
B先是站在那里 他的手无措的放在两边，后来他回抱了 J
他们温和的拥抱着，用脸轻触对方的脖子。
: B: Where will you go?
&&B:你要去哪裡
: J: I'll think of something
&&J:我會知道的
: They release each other and J moves to the door
: Close up of Brian. He is clenching his jaw. Sadness but also
: reflection, contemplation in his eyes. He is thinking, taking it all
: He turns toward the door.
他们松开彼此，J向门走去 。B抽紧了下颌，他的眼睛里是痛苦深思的表情，他在思考发生的这一切，他向门那边走。
: B: Let me know.
&&B:記得要告訴我
: J is in the door way and he stares at Brian sadly and pulls the door
J站在门边 他痛苦的注视了B一会 拉上门
作者: d10100& & 时间:
B不相信家庭，忘了第几集他说他那个酗酒性冷淡的妈，和那个不负责任的爸爸，所以这才是他不敢去承诺一份感情，不敢去组建一个家庭的原因！！他对FAMILY这个词本身就存在质疑，尤其是看到MEL LIZ也没有好下场，他总觉得所有的那些都是BuLLSHIT。
作者: lee81311& & 时间:
谢谢lovehydeken翻译~~~~
偶快哭得没力气啦~~~~~~~
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作者: bettyy& & 时间:
下面是引用d1-05-26 20:49发表的:
B不相信家庭，忘了第几集他说他那个酗酒性冷淡的妈，和那个不负责任的爸爸，所以这才是他不敢去承诺一份感情，不敢去组建一个家庭的原因！！他对FAMILY这个词本身就存在质疑，尤其是看到MEL LIZ也没有好下场，他总觉得所有的那些都是BuLLSHIT。
B最大的问题是在没有真正的向小J敞开他自己
他完全可以跟小J好好的谈谈，谈自己的过去对自己的影响
告诉小J他没有办法married，可是他愿意为了小J去试着改变现在的生活
希望能给他时间去努力
而不是象现在一样一遇到问题就逃避，就用f**k去解决
我项小J如果能听到这些，是绝对不会提出分手的
作者: sharpworld& & 时间:
很少看到的B为J 这么情绪化的一幕
虽然很伤感确是很精彩的两幕，等着看吧
作者: bettyy& & 时间:
下面是引用sharpworld于 20:58发表的:
很少看到的B为J 这么情绪化的一幕
虽然很伤感确是很精彩的两幕，等着看吧
其实我比较怕的是506
都可以想象到小J失望到心死的过程了
怕怕，怕偶又要忍不住眼泪了
作者: cookiesumin& & 时间:
下面是引用lurentt于 20:17发表的:
首先欢迎大人光临鄙贴
大人的话我看到倒数第二句都在脸红接受中。有些道理明白不一定做的到，每个人看电视剧关注的东西不一样 获得的感情也不一样 事到如今 我已经不可能客观 公平 冷静的看待BJ之间的感情发展 看到他们分开我的心会很痛 所以忍不住发泄了一下。但是我又可以理解BJ的想法 所以很多时候只能怪到编剧头上了 我承认自己忽略了看贴人的心情 丧失了对CL的理解和尊重 我马上就把自己误导性的话语删掉 抱歉造成大家的不快。
其次我想说US版真不真实我是不知道 毕竟我身边没有可以参照的例子 但是 如果说这幕就是所谓的真实 恕我不能认同 这里我不是指J没有追出去或是怎的（我只是想他怎么可以忍心看B那样离开 不是说他真会追出去）而是说CL处心积虑的给5季增加BJ情感卖点的方法：首先是M建立新家对J造成的影响 生活观念的分歧导致矛盾不可调和化 然后一个梅毒变成导火索 他们分开了 。看到这里我尚且能够理解。我所不能理解的是如果CL传达给我们的是BJ追求生活的不一样 那这个裂痕显然不是一场爆炸后的一次真情表白能解决的问题。我不相信B在三集的时间里能颠覆掉他30几年建立的人生观和价值取向，那这样的复合有什么样的意义。我不是觉得B不会为了J而改变 而是觉得如今BJ的感情发展即使看到他们复合都有点胆战心惊。难道是CL也无法解决这样的问题 所以把J拍到纽约去了？我觉得他们分明有为了拉拢女性观众而故意折腾这两个的嫌疑。
可能是我用语不当造成你的误解吧，我真的没有不快，也很喜欢你的帖子，我已经看过大部分的screener，不用问我怎么看到的，对于各位没有看到真正配有画面、剧情完整的S5就开始抱持消极态度，我的确有点不爽，但这不是我回帖语气过重的原因，从星期天就一直忙着上传，过两天又要开工，的文件上传常出问题，链接失效又快，难免有些急躁，你不用管我，也不要删掉你的话语，各抒己见嘛。P.S.在qafdl下载过文件的朋友请帮忙分流一下，上传后把链接地址提供给qafdl供其他人下载，的文件下载不能超过25人次，很累人的。
作者: lurentt& & 时间:
谢谢lovehydeken翻译~~~~！！！！！！！！我的程度太差所以不敢翻 你太伟大了 太崇高了 太了不起了！！！！！！！！！！！
我确实还满期待这两段的 用脚指头想我也知道他们会演的很好 会很精彩 而我会痛不欲生= =
作者: lovehydeken& & 时间:
我的翻譯還不是很好，大家不嫌棄就好，我總覺得詞句可以再更好一些，無奈想不出來，翻譯真的很難啊
作者: d10100& & 时间:
下面是引用sharpworld于 20:58发表的:
很少看到的B为J 这么情绪化的一幕
虽然很伤感确是很精彩的两幕，等着看吧
B本来就是个喜怒不行于色的人～～但他所有情绪的爆发点都在小J身上。至今为止QAF最惨绝人寰的最悲伤的一个表情就是101结尾B为J泪流满面！
作者: d10100& & 时间:
下面是引用lovehydeken于 21:17发表的:
我的翻譯還不是很好，大家不嫌棄就好，我總覺得詞句可以再更好一些，無奈想不出來，翻譯真的很難啊
你翻得很好啊～～我本来也试图翻，但翻得实在连我自己都看不下去了，刷了一下新就看见你的翻译了！！还好我没翻出来，要不就可以去撞墙了！！
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作者: cookiesumin& & 时间:
那个……你翻译得很好，不过这段话有歧义：
J: I accept that. I suppose that's one of the reasons I've always loved you.
J:我接受這說法，而我可以接受的原因是因為我愛著你，永遠都是我愛著你
我觉得J的意思是：我同意（接受B的论调），我想这就是我一直爱你的原因之一。
Brian (turns away) Oh. The un-tame-able beast.
原文註解：Brian轉身離開，這個沒骨氣的野獸(說的真好，大叔你要有骨氣一點啦)
untamable是不可驯服，难以制服的意思，不是“没骨气”，我觉得B在说J爱他是因为他是自由不受约束的性感野兽。
B: (Stares at him a minute. Blinks) Probably not.
B:(盯著Justin一會，眨了眨眼)也許可以不這樣的
我觉得这里B是接着J的这句话“But if they can't... or ...won't, they really have no other place to go.”B的意思应该是：也许吧（也许除了分手，别无他选吧。）
J: Then why are we still doing this if we know it's never going to work?
J:那為什麼我們還在這裡，如果我們永遠都達不到我所說的
我觉得J的意思是：既然知道有缘无份，何必还要作茧自缚？
作者: yumao0123& & 时间:
21:49 & & 标题: Re:507BJ分手场景(重点更新在第二页 悲痛慎入from yahoo group)
now...he's HERE..in YOUR... house
无语。。。只能说，好高段的煽情手段，比琼瑶阿姨高多了。
Justin要追出去就不是Justin了，他太明白自己想要什么了，这也是这段爱情没变成平庸爱情小说的重要原因之一。
那段BM交锋的戏更好看些，痛快淋漓。能直面Brian的错误，这是成长了的Michael。
作者: bettyy& & 时间:
22:00 & & 标题: Re:Re:507BJ分手场景(重点更新在第二页 悲痛慎入from yahoo group)
下面是引用yumao-05-26 21:49发表的Re:507BJ分手场景(重点更新在第二页 悲痛慎入from yahoo group):
now...he's HERE..in YOUR... house
无语。。。只能说，好高段的煽情手段，比琼瑶阿姨高多了。
Justin要追出去就不是Justin了，他太明白自己想要什么了，这也是这段爱情没变成平庸爱情小说的重要原因之一。
为什么大家都成长了
B却总再关键时刻如此这般呢
B啊B，再喜欢你也看不下去了 [s:185]
作者: lurentt& & 时间:
cookiesumin大人的修正基本上解决了我的疑问，虽然我程度很差 也不好意思闲着了 我把这拥抱的一段翻一下 这段我喜欢 蓝体字是截取原翻译 再次谢谢lovehydeken亲）
Justin drops the bags. Brian looks down at them for a few seconds
: Justin then reaches up with one hand and places it on B's shoulder
: and then puts his hand on Brian's neck and pulls himself toward
: Brian, standing on his toes slightly. He then puts his other arm
: around Brian and pulls him into a hug.
: Brian stands there with both arms awkwardly at his side and then
: embraces Justin
: They hug tenderly
: Individual over-the-shoulder shots of both their faces nuzzling on
: each other's necks.
J放下包，有几秒钟B就这样看着那包。然后J伸出一只手放在B的肩膀上，把手放在B的脖子上将他拉近自己，J稍微的掂起脚尖站着。随后他伸出另一只胳膊绕向B给了他一个拥抱。
B先是站在那里 他的手无措的放在两边，后来他回抱了 J
他们温和的拥抱着，用脸轻触对方的脖子。
B: Where will you go?
B:你要去哪裡
: J: I'll think of something
J:我會知道的
: They release each other and J moves to the door
: Close up of Brian. He is clenching his jaw. Sadness but also
: reflection, contemplation in his eyes. He is thinking, taking it all
: He turns toward the door.
他们松开彼此，J向门走去 。B抽紧了下颌，他的眼睛里是痛苦深思的表情，他在思考发生的这一切，他向门那边走。
: B: Let me know.
B:記得要告訴我（这句是记得告诉我还是现在就让我知道呢？）
: J is in the door way and he stares at Brian sadly and pulls the door
J站在门边 他痛苦的注视了B一会 拉上门
作者: lovehydeken& & 时间:
謝謝cookiesumin和lurentt的指正和幫忙翻譯，我把二位的部分加入我在3樓的翻譯，我沒有特別用顏色區分是誰翻譯的，是為了大家閱讀上的方便，請多見諒。謝謝二位讓整段翻譯更加完整。感謝感謝。
我好愛這兩大段，看這兩隻為愛折磨，真是~~又想哭又感動的
作者: cocosunny& & 时间:
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作者: lovehydeken& & 时间:
我倒是覺得Michael的那句who wound't?意義也很深，Michael指的是他自己吧，他也曾很愛Brian(在很多BM迷心中，也許覺得Michael現在還愛Brian)，但也是因為Brian的行為，讓Michael選擇愛上Ben。
所以我覺得如果最後BJ不能在一起，其實也代表了BM更不可能，Michael要的東西比Justin還多，如果連Justin都不能讓Brian改變，那就沒有人可以做到。
510爆炸案後的求婚，代表Brian改變了，那對BJ來說是好事，至於最後的結局，只能說畢竟編劇還是走現實面，但我相信Justin會回來的，Justin才是Brian的剋星，從第一季開始鋪陳的一切就證明了這點。
作者: lovehydeken& & 时间:
個人狠狠推薦tsen0627大人製作的這個mv
歌好畫面佳
在聽了Michael那句He was NEVER perfectly happy!後
就請大家用這個MV好好回味
一到四季中Brian是怎麼傷Justin的
讓他有那樣難過的表情
真是應驗了He was NEVER perfectly happy這句話
唉~~~悲啊悲啊~~~~~~~~~
作者: marinehyde& & 时间:
很想很想杀人…………编剧大人们，你们小心点…………
台次写得倒不错…… [s:179]
作者: mirror& & 时间:
哈哈哈哈期待GaleRandy的精彩演绎！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！
作者: sowhat2005& & 时间:
不能总是让brian伤justin的心啊，也该让brian尝尝这种痛苦了，所以一点都不同情他，我可是无条件地站在justin这边的
作者: future咯咯巫& & 时间:
擦擦眼泪继续灌水~
作者: springer& & 时间:
: B: You're making me f**king nervous as hell (and his nervousness is
: evident in his voice and face) (a loud out-take of breath is heard
: from Justin) Just tell me what you want, what you decided..and we can
: go to bed..and f**k.
B:該死的你讓我緊張起來，你只要告訴我你要什麼，你又決定了什麼，
&&然後我們就該上床然後f**k
&&(但Brian的聲音和表情卻似乎一點也不緊張，Justin嘆了一大口氣)
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这个翻译的也有点儿小问题，这里不是brian声音和表情一点儿也不紧张，而是正好相反：
brian的声音和表情都那样明显的紧张起来。或者说焦躁起来。
and his nervousness is evident in his voice and face---估计你是把nerveousness看成nerveless了。
作者: 大眼鱼& & 时间:
关于ＱＡＦ的编剧，偶来更正一点点（汗，偶有可能会被乱棒Ｘ死），大家知道的Ｃ／Ｌ其实只有亲自动手写了第一季的剧本而已，其后的另有其人，整个编剧班底有一大帮人呢，导演也不相同．但不管编剧是谁，现在偶们看到的这种白烂剧情，不能不说这是连续剧集的通病．为了刺激收视率嘛～
话归正题，看到这样的情节偶也郁闷得Ｓ，偶几年的守候心情－－虽然现在已经知道结局－－可还是受不了再这么给折腾一下．为什么每次只有当Ｊ决定离开Ｂ时，Ｂ才能意识到Ｊ对他的重要呢？偶感觉整套ＱＡＦ就拿这个来折腾观众，甚至到结束都不来个痛快！！算了．．．．．这也不能妨碍它成为一部HIT SHOW.
嘿嘿～～～大喜大悲过后，偶现在要保持冷静的态度，放松下来，Fully enjoy this show!
作者: lovehydeken& & 时间:
「估计你是把nerveousness看成nerveless了。」
哈哈，沒錯我的確看錯了，難怪我還覺得Brian竟然還能不緊張，也太厲害了，謝謝，我再回三樓改
作者: bettyy& & 时间:
下面是引用sowhat-05-27 00:54发表的:
不能总是让brian伤justin的心啊，也该让brian尝尝这种痛苦了，所以一点都不同情他，我可是无条件地站在justin这边的
咱们可是矛盾啊，心疼小J，更心疼B
真是恨铁不成钢啊～～～
作者: 猫咪枣& & 时间:
好惨呀，我哭，哭死了。不过也许这次的分开对彼此都好，谁知道呢。
作者: feiqiqi& & 时间:
最起码513的分手比507温馨多了。。。。
用我的烂英文粗看也知道。。。。。
痛苦死了！
作者: qafjustin& & 时间:
哎，总算看到翻译了。虽然做好了心理准备……但还是难过啊。
作者: amyfox& & 时间:
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作者: baobaoq& & 时间:
啊~~~~~~~~~~不要啊~~！！
为什么这样啊~~我的心脏受不了啦~~！我心爱的小J一定要和B大叔在一起啊~~！
作者: iss37& & 时间:
BRIAN啊BRIAN，唉，干吗总是故作潇洒
作者: candyperfume& & 时间:
看了上面的翻译和分析，J的离去让我突然想到一件事
就是B和J的生活方式和态度完全不一样，记得
在某个S5的宣传片里Gale就说：Justin has a totally
different way of precieving life
其实这一点在前四季已经体现出来了，但到了第五季，发展到了一个高潮。
因为几个主角都围绕着家庭这个主题，加上J的成长，BJ在生活态度上的矛盾
就越来越严重了。主观来讲，我也希望BJ幸福的结局，可是客观上讲
又不太可能，两个人生活方式不一样的人，很难真正共同生活，就像J
说的，他们的生活目标不一样。我不太相信两个人在一起久了就能互相磨合
这样的事情，尤其是像B和J这样的性格极为独立的人，由于不同的家庭背景
与生活经历，使得他们在价值观与人生观上有着根本的差异。
所以两个人在一起难免会出问题，会分手，可又不能真正分手，因为两个人是相爱的
最后就变成一个循环：共同生活直到有一方无法再容忍另一方的生活方式，
然后分开，然后又因为想念再在一起直到再分开........（从s2-s5一直都是这个循环）
所以对于507这个分手，客观上讲我觉得是早晚的事。
而且从情节上讲，编剧向观众传达了一个很好的讯息，就是让我们看到了
一个人只有随着成长才逐渐明白自己要的是什么（Randy在访问里也说到了这个问题）
想S1里的小J肯定从没想到过自己会有主动离开B的一天吧
我觉得相比J对B的执著追求，J的放手更让我感动！
基本上我觉得这个情节设计的很好（比那个号称realistic and genius的结局强多了），让B和
J都冷静的想一想彼此的关系，想一想到底自己能在多大程度上接受和容忍对方的生活方式，这也是
为了后来B的求婚作了一定的准备。
作者: bettyy& & 时间:
下面是引用candyperfume于 17:23发表的:
看了上面的翻译和分析，J的离去让我突然想到一件事
就是B和J的生活方式和态度完全不一样，记得
在某个S5的宣传片里Gale就说：Justin has a totally
different way of precieving life
其实这一点在前四季已经体现出来了，但到了第五季，发展到了一个高潮。
觉得看qaf好累哦~~精神上的累
以前的电视,也有很多令我着迷的
可从来没有一部象qaf
会哭,会笑,会一会哭一会笑
会在每一季上映之前拼命的看情节预告,
会在上映后仔细的分析每一个情节,理性的,感性的,
会看如此之多的英文fic,
会搜集所有的music,pictrue
会在梦里替qaf重拍结局,会在梦里看到10年20年以后的BJ
整整忙碌了三年,
艾,要是上学时有这么用功,估计上哈佛都有可能了
作者: jojojo& & 时间:
往前一步是黃昏
退後一步是人生~
作者: gardenia& & 时间:
B在感情上太不成熟,缺乏安全感,,所以分开是很合理的设计.
作者: 茉谷& & 时间:
作者: luciadd& & 时间:
其实bm的争执从第5季一开始不是就可以看到了么。。。。b对m说:&when did you change?&....m回答说:&why haven't you?&。。。。所以一直以来都认为最像小孩子的其实是b啊。。。（至少在感情方面）。。。而j的成长却是从1-5季一直可见的。。。。brian啊。。。可怜孩子。。。
作者: fucker& & 时间:
阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿
特想看BM的那场对话
简直把qaf bmj的关系慢慢透明…
不想哭也不会哭..
但是我好想大叫…
作者: kkxiaoye& & 时间:
为什么大家都那么难过呢？从翻译来看，B真的是爱惨了小J,分手只是因为他无法给小J想要的承诺，就算他们分手，也改变不了他们相爱的事实
作者: wsmdm& & 时间:
可是有更好的理由可以让偶不难过吗？一直以来
在看QAF就是在不断的体会BJ之间的感情
看到他们开心我就笑，看到他们难受我会哭
这一次看到J打算离开B
两个人其实心情都很痛苦，都那么难受
为什么偶不可以跟着哭啊？
不要用别的什么来说服偶
偶天生就是个感情特脆弱的人
虽然偶是男的
每次看到他们两个彼此折磨偶都难受得要死
转眼看见他们又开心了偶也一样对屏幕傻笑
不管结局如何，偶愿意时刻伴随他们的情绪
在自我的情感旋涡里
把自己深深的…………陷进去
这就是偶为什么这么爱QAF的理由
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作者: lean& & 时间:
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作者: 贵之水& & 时间:
后面竟然这么虐心，受不了了~~~~
作者: malaohu& & 时间:
同意14和16楼的说法！！
但分手的场情真是让人伤心，虽然知道10集会和好！！！
看了心里就是有一种不舒服的感觉，像是有个地方被塞住了！！！
作者: tsen0627& & 时间:
16:12 & & 标题: Re:Re:507BJ分手场景（重点更新在第二页 悲痛慎入）(from yahoo group)
下面是引用lurentt于 10:29发表的Re:507BJ分手场景（重点更新在第二页 悲痛慎入）(from yahoo group):
我没有想到B会把他的这一面给J看到。。。。。。。。
我没什么别的想法，就是觉得 J怎么能忍住不追出去的，要是我肯定受不了了
Justin追出去也沒用吧！還能說什麼...
面對面，只是徒增傷心！明明相愛卻分離.... [s:188]
作者: lurentt& & 时间:
19:35 & & 标题: Re:Re:Re:507BJ分手场景（重点更新在第二页 悲痛慎入）(from yahoo group)
下面是引用tsen-06-01 16:12发表的Re:Re:507BJ分手场景（重点更新在第二页 悲痛慎入）(from yahoo group):
Justin追出去也沒用吧！還能說什麼...
面對面，只是徒增傷心！明明相愛卻分離.... [s:188]
追出去是没用拉 可是要是让我看到那样的B离开 真不如把我心给割了
要知道 他走的时候连M也失去了 我简直不能想象他的痛苦
我假设一下要是我是J的话 你让我默默的站着那边看他走是绝对不可能的 但是追出去又没用 我只有把自己敲晕了免得难过 &&&&&&& 当然我不是J&&所以 亲就当我这个多愁善感的女人自己幻想得了= =~~~~~~
我真的很怕看到B颓废的样子
作者: 悠悠& & 时间:
B越来越弱了，好多以前坚信的东西都开始动摇了，还满痛苦的说
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