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新人。顺便问下progressive house和progressive trance之间的区别_trance吧_百度贴吧
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如题。问下各位大大们。我只是个门外汉。这两种风格总感觉很像。总让我有时分不清楚。谢谢。
House的音乐偏重TEACH.而TRANCE.早期TRANCE规定其必须有钢琴声.而现代逐渐脱离钢琴声.但是老手的TRANCE制作者还加上钢琴声.列如CHILDEN
区别不大 anjunadeep三个系列里全都是这两种曲风 听完后你也听不出太明显的区别 所以他们俩是不分家的个别几期asot里有大量的prog house 记得是442 457 中有不少
谢谢回复。但感觉不完全是这样。我觉得很多pro house也很有 出神 的感觉。。而且,此吧虽说是trance吧,但好像有不少歌是pro house。因此,我有点困惑。
那可不可以理解为pro house在本吧内是看做是trance的范畴呢?而且既然两者有风格名称上的差别,应该还是有细微处的不同吧。
回复5楼:区别是有的 但是想用语言来描述具体的音乐还是有一定难度的 你听多的就自然知道了
哦,谢谢。能否给个大致的辨别方向呢?是旋律走向?速度?混响?还是。。我一会儿多听听看。
光听的话。大多数我也分不清。主要靠感觉。只可意会不可言传。有时候分不清了就看MP3的属性里有。一看又觉得自己的判断是对的。其实还是搞不明白,哈哈
这样啊。呵呵。
你这个用语言没法说 本来区别就不大 光用嘴形容很抽象就比如像告诉一个盲人这个世界是什么样的 说一万句都不如自己睁眼看一下
恩 ,看来只有多听了。
有一点必须澄清,Trance分类和钢琴根本一点点的关系都没有,吧两者联系说在一起那就是误导。Trance本身是从Techno异变而来,最早期的Trance那就是足够的电和迷幻,知道90年代中期,才开始有人开始动用钢琴,所形成的主要是Dream/Melody Trance小分类中的一个小小元素而已,和Trance分类根本一点点一点点关系都没有。至于区别,非要用话说很简单,看鼓点,House的鼓点标准4/4拍,Trance的鼓点则根本没有4/4拍的Loops循环。但我建议,分类是听多听到会分的,我开始听电音前几年,啥分类都不懂,也真没啥必要分,呵呵
正如本吧大神说的很难分的就别分......PRO真心难区分trance偏TECHNO,PRO大多比较机械......我是这么分的
CHILDREN这首曲子大家应该不陌生吧?里面的钢琴声你没有听出来么?
这个叫"dream" not "trance"
你去看看英文的TRANCE介绍早期的trance是什么? 看看有钢琴声没?而且早期的百度百科在介绍trance时说到钢琴声,只是最近红火后,trance更趋近迪吧的dj.
在2003年前后至少是这么规定的。因为那时侯只在欧洲少许流行,音乐人都加入钢琴声来伴奏。
....首先你真应该看看Trance的分类定义,我觉得不难找,早起Trance是从Techno中,大量Acid色彩分裂出来,包括德国大量Trance未分离的半成品,都是足够硬件打造出来的东西。其次Trance成型的代表是1990年的Age Of Love的同名单曲,这是世界上公认的第一首Trance,那先麻烦去听听这首代表Trance成型的作品,有多少钢琴,或者有没有钢琴然后,钢琴代表的Dream Trance,逐渐形成于94年,最终在98年左右逐渐消亡,它只代表Trance柔和型旋律型的一个分类,而更多的Trance,则停留在Acid,Hard甚至Rave Trance的概念上。最后,03年是Trance什么时候?那时Uplifting都起来了,更不会用到钢琴,那我就特想知道,你说的03年左右Trance定义是钢琴这话,验证在哪些人身上?当时够红火的Tiesto,Armin这些大牌,有用到吗?用一个乐器加入来定义一个类型,这本身就是够误导人的。分类平时可以不去提,但是分类本身是严谨的,源于起源,就算再怎么进化,也有它基本特征,不存在一个时期的分类,是一个定义。我搞分类在国内时间足够长,我觉得这个你真没必要来忽悠我,找错人了。还03年用钢琴定义。。。。吧里几个Trance的粉丝就足够给你扫盲了
呵呵。97年都没有tarnce的定义,何来90年。可以说TRANCE是从children开始的。可是当时children宾能够不叫trance.因为没有trance。后来人们认识到children的风格是trance.(左右),把它归纳为trance.children可以说是trance的鼻祖。
....所以说很多是常识,麻烦你去Google,搜一下The Age Of Love的Age Of Love,这张1990年的单曲,所有定义是“Responsible for one of the very first trance records”,这真的是听Trance基础的基础的基础,关于Children是不是第一首Trance或者起源,Trance吧很早我们就扫盲过了,很早很早,这里有你认识的人,去问问吧,或者百度下吧。很多东西,不懂真的没问题,但别自认为所以然。google哪怕百度,都很多很多内容,自己动手搜一下,受益无穷。
其实我挺想截屏发去微博的,那里会有更多人直接喷,这样分辨对错的效果会更好,但对个人并不好,但是我觉得,这位朋友,不妨先去问问吧里的其他人,如果再不信,我觉得也没必要解释了,直接帮您发去微博,然后明天你可以看下微博评论,就知道对与错了。这个不是啥高深的研究,而是鸟会飞,鱼会游一样基本的音乐知识
97年没有人知道trance是什么?因为97年罗波斯也不知道他的children会这么畅销。而且后来他的这个children被归纳为trance.但是总的来说。各说各的。可是children最接近现代电脑音乐的。
我就丢您一句话,95年我在欧洲听Trance的时候,那个时候国外有没有Trance这个定义,我闭着眼睛也可以和你说有。还是那句话,首先您可以问问吧里其他人,其次Trance发展20年是2010年很多专辑的一个主题,最后如果您还有疑问,我会发布微博,明天我会给您连接,到时您可以直接看到大家的意见,:)
你在欧洲的那个国家是德国么?或者是西欧。西欧的trance没有东欧发达。
好了,为什么我不想和您说下去,是因为真的,我不喜欢不懂装懂的人,就这样,我发微博,明天给您看听Trance的人的评论,这样群众的结论如果您再坚持您那一套,我表示无话可以说
英国和法国等西欧。没有德国的以及挨着德国的波兰匈牙利的trance发达。
板鸭叔,看一下这三张专辑看呢是98年的东西,关于命名怎么说?那会是称之为dream?PS:我只是围观群众......老硬盘扒出来一些古董问问行情罢了
这三张是我传的吧,哈,这套我以前强烈推荐过,看文件夹命名是我的风格,呵呵。X-Trance当年用的这个Dream Trance,几乎是收录了90年代中期最佳的Dream/Melody Trance作品,这套你听下来也能知道,这个Dream概念,并不是钢琴,而是相比当时Hard/Acid类Trance,拥有更多的旋律感,包括提亲,明亮的音色,以及大量自然采样,它更加体现的是梦幻,而不是迷幻
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